09-12-2014, 12:08 PM
Vllad Wrote:So basically people want to play multi player community games with communities that don't exist?
The vast majority of people, yes - but a moderated community does not mean a community doesn't exist. The non political forums here are moderated, does that make in an unmoderated community?
Quote:MMO's are full of fucktards, if you don't like playing with fucktards why would you want to play an MMO? Regulating work place behaivor and a gaming enviroments are two different things despite what game producers think.
The internet is full of fucktards in general (as is life, and anonymity just amplifies this), plenty of clubs and leagues and other groups where people associate for entertainment reasons have rules of behavior that, if violated, will cause you to be kicked out. If I go and start calling every chick in our softball league a whore, i would not be welcome back in it.
Quote:I get it, game producers want people to think their communities are civilized in order to make more cash. However MMO's really have no means to police their own communities beyond making sure people can't cheat. If the community itself doesn't police the MMO it will remain un-policed.
Policing itself just leaves the hard-core in charge, for the vast majority of people who do not put that much time in a game the concept of community self regulation is ridiculous. The League of Legends tribunal system is a great example, they do nothing to regulate the asshatery of the MOBA sewer and instead just punish people who aren't very good at the game. Great if you are a group of hardcore people, for the vast majority of the player base it isn't.
MMOs certainly have means to police their own communities, you can get bans for anti social behavior - it doesn't happen all that often as there is a low GM to player ratio, and they don't want to kill their subscriber base, but it certainly has happened to some extent and is not impossible.
Quote: If a female player is constantly sexually harassed she has as much responsibility in that happening as do the people doing the harassing her. Complaining about fucktards in MMO's is equal to strippers complaining when men call them whores. Next thing you know we will have strip joints where women aren't allowed to take off their cloths because that creates a hostile enviroment for the strippers.
Yeah, women playing a video game is just like choosing to be a stripper, those whores are just asking for it.
I know ya'll have grass is always greener memories of the halcyon days of EQ, but the membership base was smalltime and the industry has realized that catering to that group is not the best way to sell a lot of your games, and thats not exactly a bad thing. Some rules does not equate to "going to a strip club where women aren't allowed to take their clothes off", unless the whole point of gaming to you was verbally abusing other players constantly.
Moderating a community happens all the time, offline and online, and does not destroy the concept of community. Self policing only works with small groups of people who see each other all the time and when they can do something substantial, this doesn't apply to most gamers. Why do I give a fuck if someone is policing me if there are so many people in the world that I'll never see them again, and the most they can do is maybe kill me and force me to respawn? Similarly, most people don't want to play a game where the consequences of EQ apply to them, so once again unless you are super hardcore the concept of "self-policing" becomes irrelevant.
Agree with Slamz though, if you can't even frag your own teammates it's pretty hard to do much of anything.