We'll soon all be Cyborgs

[Thudz]

Pretty cool. Tons of applications I can think of.

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[Dustie]

It's all good and well until it decides to divert power from your brain to the device in order to download a large text message.

[Thudz]

That's what Mt. Dew is for.

I was thinking about diabetics. Theoretically couldn't a device like this monitor your blood sugar and even work to convert extra blood sugar to electrical energy if the sugar levels exceed a certain amount and sound an alarm if they drop below an amount.

Also, couldn't a device like this give you all sorts of other information on your blood like type, cholesterol and white blood cell levels. It would be a good tool for first responders and doctors.

[OrsunVZ]

... neat idea, but holy hell lots of questions...
Like:
What holds it in place?!?!?! What happens if soemthing hits your arm (or how hard before it breaks)??? What if it does break? And can something that large seriosuly be placed between the muscle and skin? what abotu all the capilaries that bring blood to the skin itself?? Wouldn't the skin over the device suffer from poor circulation?

It's been a while since I studied biology, but this doesnt sound remotely feasible to me.

I think you could quite easily create a port in the skin to plug this into your body and have it outside your skin, which to me sounds like a hell of a lot more useful anyway. I feel like this deserves a single word that somehow expresses the concept of "What the?!!?! Neato!! Wierd as *@ck!!"

[Vanraw]

More links on the thing. This is wierd stuff. Who would every do this to them selves???

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[Thudz]

I embrace this shit, this is very fascinating to me. The possibilities are endless. I want an implant that captures the images on my retinas and digitizes them on to a tiny HD implanted in my skull that allows for instance playback of anything you've seen, kinda like a built in DVR.

[Thudz]

... neat idea, but holy hell lots of questions...
Like:
What holds it in place?!?!?! What happens if soemthing hits your arm (or how hard before it breaks)??? What if it does break? And can something that large seriosuly be placed between the muscle and skin? what abotu all the capilaries that bring blood to the skin itself?? Wouldn't the skin over the device suffer from poor circulation?

It's been a while since I studied biology, but this doesnt sound remotely feasible to me.

I think you could quite easily create a port in the skin to plug this into your body and have it outside your skin, which to me sounds like a hell of a lot more useful anyway. I feel like this deserves a single word that somehow expresses the concept of "What the?!!?! Neato!! Wierd as *@ck!!"

I think it is very porous and allows for the skin and muscles to reconnect naturally. I see this as less intrusive then say Botox or Saline injections that go between the muscle and skin.

[OrsunVZ]

That might answer a couple of the questions then...

mind you Botox should probably not be used as a reference point in medical validity. Effing crazy imo.

[Vllad]

Pretty cool until his hardware or software is out of date in two years and it no longer operates.

Their was a time when we thought computers would allow us to store data for an millenium. Now we are lucky if we get 4 years out of it.

Ironically a stone tablet is still the only way to store data long term.


Vllad

[Dustie]

Pretty cool until his hardware or software is out of date in two years and it no longer operates.

Their was a time when we thought computers would allow us to store data for an millenium. Now we are lucky if we get 4 years out of it.

Ironically a stone tablet is still the only way to store data long term.


Vllad

I was thinking about that the other day. Will there every be a time when "beings" of some sort are looking at Mount Rushmore saying "wow, who were these guys?"

[Vanraw]

I think so dustie. though it might be like 2 thousand years from now. Look at the Aztec and Mayan as well as Egypt monuments.

A friend of mine wrote a short story about aliens coming to a uninhbaited earth like 10k years in the future that took this approach. One thing made me laugh was the aliens view on our highway system. It was obviously an archaic sporting event in which we would chase small creatures around and try to smash them with our mechanical devices.

[Thudz]

I think so dustie. though it might be like 2 thousand years from now. Look at the Aztec and Mayan as well as Egypt monuments.

A friend of mine wrote a short story about aliens coming to a uninhbaited earth like 10k years in the future that took this approach. One thing made me laugh was the aliens view on our highway system. It was obviously an archaic sporting event in which we would chase small creatures around and try to smash them with our mechanical devices.

As we know now from that show that shows what would happen to Earth if all humans were gone pretty much everything built by man (buildings, bridges, roads) is almost completely gone, as in no trace what so ever, in just a couple thousand years. Things like roads disappear under the soil and vegetation in just a matter of years.

[Diggles]

The nat geo show says mount rushmore will stay intact for at least 200k years

[Thudz]

The nat geo show says mount rushmore will stay intact for at least 200k years

Solid granite is very durable.

[Zouji]

The nat geo show says mount rushmore will stay intact for at least 200k years

Solid granite is very durable.

Yeah they should make mountains out of that stuff.

[Moristans]

I was thinking about diabetics. Theoretically couldn't a device like this monitor your blood sugar and even work to convert extra blood sugar to electrical energy if the sugar levels exceed a certain amount and sound an alarm if they drop below an amount.

I can't pull up the link, but the problem with diabetes isn't, necessarily, getting rid of excess glucose in the blood. Excess sugar will eventually be filtered out into the urine. It's not the ideal fate of excess glucose, nor is it healthy, but even if there was a means to convert excess glucose from your blood into electricity, it won't do you any good anyway. Your cells can only use ATP from oxidized carbon compounds to fuel cellular processes. Your brain runs exclusively on glucose.

The most immediate concern of high blood sugar level is keto-acidosis, which is caused by the metabolism of protein instead of glucose. That's what will eventually put you into a coma.

[Thudz]

I was thinking about diabetics. Theoretically couldn't a device like this monitor your blood sugar and even work to convert extra blood sugar to electrical energy if the sugar levels exceed a certain amount and sound an alarm if they drop below an amount.

I can't pull up the link, but the problem with diabetes isn't, necessarily, getting rid of excess glucose in the blood. Excess sugar will eventually be filtered out into the urine. It's not the ideal fate of excess glucose, nor is it healthy, but even if there was a means to convert excess glucose from your blood into electricity, it won't do you any good anyway. Your cells can only use ATP from oxidized carbon compounds to fuel cellular processes. Your brain runs exclusively on glucose.

The most immediate concern of high blood sugar level is keto-acidosis, which is caused by the metabolism of protein instead of glucose. That's what will eventually put you into a coma.

Take your book learning and get the hell out of my thread!

[Moristans]

And can something that large seriosuly be placed between the muscle and skin? what abotu all the capilaries that bring blood to the skin itself?? Wouldn't the skin over the device suffer from poor circulation?

Again, can't pull up the link to see the device, but, generally, the skin covering your muscles has it's own independent capillary bed with it's own independent blood supply from the muscle itself. It shouldn't suffer from poor circulation if an object is placed between it and whatever it happens to be covering. At points, you have arteries supplying the capillary beds in skin coming up through muscle and connective tissue, but those point shouldn't be that difficult to avoid.

[Moristans]

Take your book learning and get the hell out of my thread!

K, just don't burn me at the stake. :cry: